Thursday, July 21, 2005
44 Courses Ranked by Mr. Science & Cactus Dave, so far
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Phoenix Golf Courses -- So Far | ||||||||||
Name | Yards | Par | Slope | Cactus Dave Rating | Mr. Science Ranking | |||||
Gold Canyon Dinosaur Mountain | 6653 | 70 | 143 | 1 | 1 | More challenging, Ken Cavanaugh | ||||
Las Sendas | 6874 | 71 | 145 | 2 | 1 | Hardest public course in Phoenix | ||||
The Boulders South Course | 6726 | 71 | 139 | 2 | 1 | Jay Morrish | ||||
Troon North Monument | 7028 | 72 | 139 | 2 | 1 | |||||
We-Ko-Pa | 7225 | 72 | 136 | 2 | 1 | Very scenic, desert, challenging | ||||
Del Lago | 7206 | 72 | 142 | 2 | 2 | Vail, AZ (E of Tucson) very nice | ||||
Eagle Mountain | 6802 | 72 | 139 | 2 | 2 | Beautiful course, beautiful views | ||||
Gold Canyon Sidewinder | 6509 | 71 | 130 | 2 | 2 | Scenic, challenging Ken Cavanaugh design | ||||
Grayhawk Raptor Course | 7135 | 72 | 143 | 2 | 2 | Tom Fazio design | ||||
Grayhawk Talon Course | 7000 | 72 | 140 | 2 | 2 | |||||
Legend Trail | 6815 | 72 | 135 | 2 | 2 | Rees Jones | ||||
Rancho Manana | 6016 | 70 | 128 | 2 | 2 | Very scenic, interesting, somewhat mountainous | ||||
Raven at South Mountain | 7078 | 72 | 130 | 2 | 2 | David Graham & Gary Panks | ||||
Sedona Golf Resort | 6646 | 71 | 128 | 2 | 2 | Very scenic, mountainous | ||||
Talking Stick South Course | 6833 | 71 | 125 | 2 | 2 | Ben Crenshaw | ||||
The Boulders North Course | 6811 | 72 | 137 | 2 | 2 | Jay Morrish | ||||
The Pointe at Lookout Mtn. | 6535 | 71 | 135 | 2 | 2 | Fabulous views, Marble Rest Rooms! | 72 | |||
TPC of Scottsdale Stadium Course | 7216 | 71 | 138 | 2 | 2 | PGA Tour venue, pricey, difficult; Weiskopf/Morrish | ||||
Wildfire Faldo Course | 6846 | 71 | 127 | 2 | 3 | somewhat linksy, good | ||||
Coyote Lakes | 6213 | 71 | 120 | 3 | 3 | Short but entertaining | ||||
Kokopelli | 6700 | 72 | 135 | 3 | 3 | Nice course, good price | ||||
Legacy | 6816 | 71 | 128 | 3 | 3 | nice timeshare resort, classy | ||||
Oakwood Golf Club Palms / Sonoran | 6567 | 72 | 129 | 3 | 3 | |||||
Orange Tree | 6775 | 72 | 121 | 3 | 3 | Resort, nice | ||||
Sanctuary | 6624 | 71 | 139 | 3 | 3 | |||||
Sun City Grand Cimmaron | 3 | 3 | Newest of 4 | |||||||
The Foothills | 6968 | 72 | 132 | 3 | 3 | Lopsided design, best Breakfast Burrito in the Valley | ||||
The Phoenician Desert / Canyon | 6068 | 70 | 131 | 3 | 3 | Best views in Phoenix; course has poor layout & ugly landscaping; Maintenance lacking | ||||
TPC of Scottsdale Desert Course | 3 | 3 | Much easier, nice little track | |||||||
Wildfire Palmer Course | 7145 | 72 | 135 | 3 | 3 | more American style, desert course | ||||
Raven at Verrado | 7258 | 72 | 132 | 3 | ||||||
Trilogy at Vistancia | 7269 | 72 | 134 | 3 | Gary Panks | |||||
Camelback Golf Club Club Course | 7014 | 72 | 122 | 4 | 3 | Flat, Old Fashioned, non-desert course | ||||
The Duke | 7011 | 72 | 120 | 4 | 3 | |||||
Coldwater | 6758 | 72 | 121 | 4 | 4 | short front, long back "best course to play on a budget" | ||||
Great Eagle | 6646 | 72 | 124 | 4 | 4 | |||||
Painted Mountain | 6021 | 70 | 114 | 4 | 4 | Mesa, short, OK | ||||
Estrella Mountain Golf Course | 6866 | 71 | 118 | 4 | 5 | hidden values; best fried egg sandwich in Phoenix; raggedy, NOT Estrella Mountain Ranch | ||||
Starfire King-Hawk | 6000 | 70 | 120 | 5 | 4 | Nice course, good price | ||||
Western Skies | 6744 | 72 | 123 | 5 | 4 | We both birdied 8, a short par 4 | ||||
Legend at Arrowhead | 6969 | 72 | 131 | 5 | 5 | Interminably slow, maintenance lacking | ||||
Phantom Horse | 6336 | 71 | 125 | 5 | 5 | poor shape, excellent vistas | ||||
Silverado | 6313 | 70 | 116 | 5 | 5 | Interesting track, no range, no frills | ||||
Viewpoint | 6324 | 71 | 116 | 5 | 5 | Easy, short, good for walking | ||||
Apache Wells | 6038 | 71 | 114 | 5 | Flat, short, & ugly | |||||
Scottsdale Country Club Starfire | 6073 | 70 | 123 | 5 | ||||||
The Pueblo | 6596 | 72 | 125 | 5 | ||||||
Camelback Golf Club Resort Course | 6903 | 72 | 131 | |||||||
Cactus Dave's Ratings | ||||||||||
1: The one and only best course in Phoenix | ||||||||||
2: These could be # 1 . . . | ||||||||||
3: These are good, but could never be # 1 | ||||||||||
4: Just not as good as a '3' | ||||||||||
5: Dog Tracks | ||||||||||
Mr. Science's Ratings | ||||||||||
1: Outstanding in every way. Pristine condition, fast and true greens, interesting and challenging design, courteous and attentive staff | ||||||||||
2: Excellent condition, well-run, nice course | ||||||||||
3: Very good course, playable, but lack something to be #2 | ||||||||||
4: OK, but not as good as a '3' | ||||||||||
5: Too short, too easy, too flat, too slow, poorly maintained, or something else that makes it less enjoyable than it should be. Won't go back. | ||||||||||
Executive Courses | ||||||||||
El Caro | 3357 | 60 | 80 | 2 | ||||||
Continental | Driving range | |||||||||
Mountain Shadows | ||||||||||