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Friday, September 15, 2017

 

Tin Cup, redux

Now, Tin Cup is not my favorite movie . . . it's not even my favorite Golf Movie . . . but there's no denying there are funny things in it, Cheech, Rene', & Linda (as Doreen) are all wonderful, and this stands in for nomination as the Best (Least Worst) Kevin Costner Movie (leavin'aside The Big Chill) . . . 8^D . . . naw, seriously, this did for Golf what Field of Dreams did for Baseball . . . and Tin Cup is an idiomatic verb now of course . . . but the best thing about it for me was always the Unfinished Symphony of Roy McAvoy, which i had written about before, but really, dubious poetry aside, once you communicate the idea of helping Rene Russo make her hip turn, well it's all just blah-blah-blah in the background i'n'n't? 😏

But anyway, to the point of the post: in that movie, I just happened to see again the other day, in part, as I was flippin' around the cable channels, there is this scene captured above  . . . I'd never noticed before . . . Roy is skulking into the Shrink's office, which is in the Salome Wellness Center . . . I mean, I don't claim to be the smartest or most alert person around, and the movie has been out for a couple of decades now, and i seen it at least partially a dozen times, never noticed before, and just think this is some crazy smart humor. 

But then I gotta re-consider the whole movie: if she's Salome, is Roy J the B? and if he is JB, then is Simms JC, or would JC be Peter Jacobsen (the actual Open winner (in the movie, I'mean))?

But then, I've been a huge fan of the whole JC - JB - Salome wrangle ever since I got old enough to read between the lines . . . Bible can be a fertile ground if you were looking to read between the lines, or just bored during the sermon . . . if you see how I mean . . .



Sunday, September 10, 2017

 

Club West Closed This Summer

Sunday 17-09-10, 11am


Friday, September 08, 2017

 

still time for a few more holes



Thursday, July 06, 2017

 

More Lookout Mountain # 10 . . .

as if in paint

as if in watercolor . . . 



Tuesday, July 04, 2017

 

#10 Tapatio / The Pointe / Lookout Mountain

Nobody knows what to call this place,
not even them . . . 
Designed by Bill Johnson,
so i have dearly loved it, but . . . 
last time we were here, the guys we played with kinda opened my eyes to its condition flaws,
and truth to tell . . .  it does seem like standards have slipped there . . . 
the greens were very ragged, patchy, bumpy.
and now i feel the design may just be too punative . . . on 3 or 4 holes
but the course still looks great at a distance, 
like on the #10 tee box . . . 
8^)



Wednesday, June 28, 2017

 

Phoenix Golf Courses Reviewed & Rated by Cactus Dave & Mr Science

NameYardsParSlopeCactus Dave RatingMr. Science RatingArchitect
Rancho Manana 60167012812Bill JohnstonVery scenic, interesting, mountainous, harder than it looks on paper
Boulders South Course67267113921Jay Morrish
Estrella Mountain Ranch71397213521Jack Nicklaus IITop Shelf
Gold Canyon Dinosaur Mountain66537014321Nash & Cavanaughchallenging
Grayhawk Raptor Course71357214321Tom Faziodreamy, hilariously difficult
Las Sendas 68747114521Robert Trent JonesHardest public course in Phoenix
Quintero72087214721Rees JonesPrivate; ludicrously difficult, gorgeous, manicured
Raven at Verrado72587213221John Foughtgreat shape, interesting holes, nice clubhouse,very friendly staff
SunRidge Canyon67667215221Keith FosterHard, Scenic, Well maintained, Friendly Staff
Troon North Tournament70257214721Weiskopf & MorrishTough Course, Great Golf, Fabulous Facility, Gracious Staff, but . . .
We-Ko-Pa Cholla72257213621Scott MillerVery scenic, desert, challenging
We-Ko-Pa Saguaro69127113821Crenshaw & Coorehttp://www.wekopa.com/layout9.asp?id=236&page=25959
Ancala Country Club70007213822Pete Dyeprivate; say no more.
Boulders North Course 68117213722Jay Morrish
Eagle Mountain 68027113922Scott MillerBeautiful course, beautiful views
Gold Canyon Sidewinder65097113022Nash & CavanaughScenic, challenging design
Grayhawk Talon Course70007214022Graham & Panks
Legacy 68167112822Gary Panksnice timeshare resort, classy
Legend Trail 68157213522Rees JonesElegant, Sophisticated, Challenging
Longbow70037112522Ken CavanaughInteresting, beautiful, challenging, & enjoyable
Los Caballeros Wickenburg70147213522Greg Nash& Jeff Hardin
Ocotillo68047113022Ted RobinsonLush, Challenging, water, water, everywhere
Pointe at Lookout Mtn. 65357113522Bill JohnstonFabulous views, Marble Rest Rooms!
Raven at South Mountain70787213022Graham & Panks
Sanctuary 66247113922HeckenkemperNarrow fairways, penal rough. Back 9 may be best 9 in the valley.
Sedona Golf Resort 66467112822Gary PanksVery scenic, mountainous
Southern Dunes74947213722Schmidt / CurleyTough Desert Links, Troon Managed, much better than Copper Canyon+A1
Stone Ridge70527213222HeckenkemperSpacious compared to Sanctuary; seems harder than 132 slope
Talking Stick North Course71337012522Crenshaw & Coore
Talking Stick South Course68337112522Crenshaw & Coore
Tonto Verde Peaks Course67377213222Graham & PanksFabulous Views, Great Condition, Interesting Course
TPC of Scottsdale Stadium Course72167113822Weiskopf & MorrishPGA Tour venue, pricey, difficult;
Trilogy at Vistancia 72697213422Gary PanksUnique uncut native grass rough, tough holes
Troon North Pinnacle70447214722Tom WeiskopfLopsided design, but Awesome
Vista Verde72197214422Ken CavanaughAwesome, Underutilized Course
Vistal70137112922Lehman,Twitty,MayfairWorth multiple visits
Whirlwind Cattail Course72187213222Gary Pankstough, scenic, lush, Best Solo Panks?
Wigwam Gold Course74307213522Robert Trent JonesUnrelenting, Implacable, Merciless
Wildfire Faldo Course68467112723Nick Faldosomewhat linksy, good
Corte Bella70117212932Gary PanksInteresting(Difficult) Greens, Plush, manicured, Troon-managed
Dove Valley Ranch70117213132Robert Trent Jones, JrAwesome, interesting course, might be underrated
Kierland Resort Golf Course69137213132Scott MillerAwesome Resort, Beautiful, Wide-open course
Poston Butte72827212732Gary PanksWell deserved Reputation, very panksian, walkable
Tatum Ranch68567212732Robert CuppPrivate; Beautiful views, conditions, wide greenbelts, devlish greens
Tonto Verde Ranch Course69887213032Gary Pankslush, scenic, Panksian Greens
Whirlwind Devils Claw70297212932Gary Pankslush, scenic, Panksian Greens
Aguila69627212933Gary PanksGood Muni, needs TLC, still playable
Antelope Hills North68447113133Lawrence HughesOld-school park design, hilly, tough rough, lots of trees
Antelope Hills South70147212433Gary PanksTypical Panks atypically hilly, sorta linksy
Arizona Biltmore Links63007112533Bill Johnstonfantastic back9, quirky 3s
Arizona Golf Resort65747112133Jack Snyder
Arizona Traditions60737011533Dick Bailey
Arrowhead CC70017212433Arnold PalmerNot as dynamic as Arrowhead Legend, but better condition
ASU Karsten70577213233Pete DyeRailroad ties. Rubber Mats. No Pull Carts. Cramped layout.
Camelback Resort Course69037213233Arthur HillsInteresting & Challenging
Cave Creek67327211933Jack SnyderThe Favorite Muni, Desert Links, TOUGH Greens
Club West Golf Course71497212933Brian WhitcombFriendly staff, Spectacular South Mountain views
Coldwater 67587212133Forrest Richardson"best course to play on a budget"; Railroad Tie Bunker
Copper Canyon68457212533Schmidt / CurleyNeighborhood Construction, way out west, Troon managed
Coyote Lakes 62137112033Jack SnyderShort but entertaining
Desert Canyon64157112333John AllenEvery Visit improves our opinion . . .
Eagles Nest67907213033Keith FosterGood Layout over very ordinary ground
Falcon Golf Course66737112833Brian CurleyAbandoned Air Force base? Great Par 3s. Good Condition?
Foothills 69687213233Brian WhitcombLopsided design, best Breakfast Burrito in the Valley
Franscisco Grande75457213033PlummerNot The Phoenician nor Kierland
Grande Valley Ranch71837212533Forrest RichardsonGreat Back 9
Granite Falls North67207211533Greg Nash(& Billy Caspar) Typical Sun City Course
Granite Falls South69397211233Greg Nashhttp://www.grandinfo.com/spage.php?shw=100044&m=glf
Hillcrest70027212633Greg NashSubtle -- Worth more Study
Johnson Ranch 71417213033Brian WhitcombDifferent 9s, Amazing views, "unfinished"
Ken McDonald67437212533Jack SnyderGood Muni; Best Breakfast Sandwich
Kokopelli 67167213533Bill PhillipsNice course, good price, AGC
Las Colinas66557112033Mike Asmundsongreen park style, duffer-friendly
Legend at Arrowhead 69697213133Arnold PalmerAGC run
Lone Tree70077112333Darryl Wilsonalmost too nice -- over-engineered?
McCormick Ranch (Palms)70447213733Desmond MuirheadA "subtle" Desmond Muirhead Design, perhaps? Best Full Breakfast!
McCormick Ranch (Pine)71877213033Desmond MuirheadHarder than the Palms, but much the same
Mountain Brook66207112033Brian Whitcombhttp://www.mountainbrookgolf.com/golf/proto/mountainbrookgolf/index.htm
Oakwood Golf Club Palms / Sonoran65677212933Gary Panks
Oasis Golf Resort736672133339Holes, Unexpectedly Interesting, Very Few Amenities
Orange Tree 67757212133Johnny BullaResort, Flat, unimaginative, mostly wide-open, grainy greens
Palm Valley70157213333Arthur HillsSubtle Challenges
Papago73337213033Bill Bell60s vintage park-style
Phoenician Desert / Canyon60687013133Ted RobinsonBest views in Phoenix; course has odd layout & landscaping;
Stone Creek68727213433Arthur HillsSubtle, good condition, Surprising in places
Sun City Grand Cimmaron68097212333Greg Nashwide open, with subtle difficulties
Sundance Golf Club69447212533Greg Nashmany interesting holes, house construction on all sides detracts
Superstition Springs Golf Club70057213033Greg NashAGC Course, en deshabille, interesting
TPC Champions71137114033HeckenkemperHarder now, but not more interesting.
Trilogy at Power Ranch67407112833Dick BaileyVery good back 9, scenic
Tuscany Falls66107212633Dick Baileymore interesting than it looks, but not harder than it looks
Westbrook Village Vistas64327212033Ken CavanaughNot comparable to Gold Canyon nor Vista Verde
Wigwam Blue60007012033Robert Trent JonesDeceptively Difficult; short; penal; tiny greens hard to read
WigWam Red68527212633Red LawrenceOld Phoenix Park Style
Wildfire Palmer Course71457213533Arnold Palmerdesert links, just lacks sump'n sump'n
Bear Creek69007112834Jack Nicklaus Best Desert Links in the Valley, Very Inexpensive, Underfacilitated
Mission Royale67007212234Greg NashLike a Sun City course, only W-a-y back east in Chandler
Apache Creek67957112843Joe AlsipFlat, but very interesting and bumpy greens
Arizona Biltmore Adobe64287112343Bill Bellflat, rather uninteresting, good condition
Camelback Club Course70147212243Jack SnyderFlat, Old Fashioned, non-desert course
Dobson Ranch67127212343Gary PanksLusher than Phoenix Munis, but not as interesting
Duke 70117212043Dave DruziskyWestern theme fits Duke course
Links at Queen Creek60107011343Sam WeseShort, unimaginative, unimposing
Villa de Paz66417112343Greg Nash&Jeff Hardin -- Flat & Unmemorable
500 Club69767212044Brian WhitcombAmazing back 9, noisy, tho'
Ahwatukee67137212044Gary PanksPanks Worst Tendencies
Bougainvillea68177211844Dan PohlToo flat, too wide open; "Bogey-ville"; Pohl-cat
Great Eagle 66467212444Greg Nashhttp://www.greateaglegolfclub.com/
Ironwood5286679944Keith FosterNice, but short, interesting greens
Painted Mountain 60217011444Frank BoxbergerMesa, short, OK
Pueblo at El Mirage65967212544Fuzzy ZoellerTornado Target
Scottsdale Country Club Starfire60936812344Arnold PalmerHawk & Squire #7s stand out
Silverado 63137011644Ross Graves& Jack Gilmore -- Interesting track, no range, no frills
Sun City Lakes West62517211944Greg Nashshort and wide, but not defenseless
Sun City North64107211744Greg Nashhttp://www.sunaz.com/northgolfcourse.htm
Sun City Riverview63947211644Greg Nashhttp://www.sunaz.com/riverviewgolfcourse.htm
Sun City South67747211544Greg Nashhttp://www.sunaz.com/southgolfcourse.htm
Sun City Willow Creek63667211944Greg Nashhttp://www.sunaz.com/willowcreekgolfcourse.htm
Western Skies 67447212344Olenoski DesignWe both birdied 8, a short par 4
San Marcos6856721214Bill Robinsonhttp://www.sanmarcosresort.com/
Estrella Mountain Golf Course 68667111845hidden values; 2nd best fried egg sandwich in PHX; raggedy
Phantom Horse 63367112545Forrest Richardsonpoor shape, excellent vistas -- Best Breakfast Taco
Encanto63867011154Bill BellJust too short and uninspired; OK for a muni
Maryvale66467211954Bill Bell60s vintage park-style
Starfire King-Hawk60737012354Nice course, good price
Toka Sticks66057211954Corps of EngineersThe GolfCourses.net
Pavilion Lakes65577112055flat , ugly, poor condition
Viewpoint 63247111655Easy, short, good for walking
Apache Wells 6038711145Flat, short, & ugly
Other Arizona Courses
Del Lago Tucson7206721422Vail, AZ (E of Tucson) very nice
Apache Gold7519721382Tom Doakhttp://www.golfapache.com/
Lake Powell7030721542William Phillipshttp://www.golflakepowell.com/
London Bridge East Course6140711243Lawrence HughesOrdinary Fun
London Bridge West Course6613711223Lawrence HughesLonger Ordinary Fun
Unreviewed/Unrated
Desert Springs700672131Greg Nash& Caspar --
Gainey Ranchhttp://www.gaineyranchcc.com/
Executive Courses
1st Tee South Mountain1800541Tom FazioExcellent 1st Tee course
Augusta Ranch379961881Well Done, Well Maintained
Mountain Shadows 308156961Jack SnyderAwesome Excutive, Best In Class
Continental 2Driving range
El Caro 335760802Bruce Devlin
Sunland Village3623622Retirable
Ahwatukee Lakes Course474562953Hale Irwin
1st Tee Desert Mirage2095313OK 1st Tee Course
Bear Creek Cub Course593Jack Nicklaus
Rolling Hills382862933Gary PanksGood Par 3s, Good Views, Rubber mats on Practice Tee
Shalimar2417333only 9 holes, monotonous
Coronado185062754Milt Coggins"Worst & Most Beloved Golf Course in AZ"?
Country Meadows4329609644Lush, but scruffy
Cypress Golf Club4907654
Desert Sands40296558.94Odiferous & Flat
Palo Verde1820307849 hole version of Desert Sands, but not quite
Cactus Dave's RatingsMr. Science's Ratings
1: The one and only best course in Phoenix 1: Outstanding in every way. Pristine condition, fast and true greens, interesting and challenging design, courteous and attentive staff
2: These could be # 1 . . . 2: Excellent condition, well-run, nice course
3: These are good, but could never be # 1 3: Very good course, playable, but lack something to be #2
4: Just not as good as a '3' 4: OK, but not as good as a '3'
5: Dog Tracks 5: Too short, too easy, too flat, too slow, poorly maintained, or something else that makes it less enjoyable than it should be. Won't go back.
Unreviewed/UnratedUnreviewed/Unrated

Wednesday, May 10, 2017

 

$15M for parks went to golf courses in Phoenix -- will parks get repaid?

$15 Million

Dustin Gardiner , The Republic | azcentral.com Published 7:02 a.m. MT May 9, 2017 

A group of Phoenix activists are pushing the city to come up with a plan to repay more than $15 million from a voter-approved tax that funds parks. Four years ago, the City Council borrowed to pay off debt from struggling municipal golf courses.

The residents accuse Phoenix of illegally misusing money from the voter-approved parks initiative. City officials say the transfer of funds was allowed.

While the debate has simmered for several years, it has received increased attention from city leaders lately as the Parks and Recreation Department, which manages city golf courses, works to develop a plan to return the money. The city doesn't have any money to repay it today.

But the parks department is considering selling some of its unneeded properties so it can start repaying the money in the near future.

This is what you need to know about the ongoing standoff between activists and City Hall over parks money:

How did it start?

Nearly a decade ago, the city asked voters to extend a special sales tax to fund parks and preserves.


Ballot language for the 2008 Phoenix Parks and Preserve Initiative, which extended the tax for 30 years, stated the money would pay to maintain, improve and expand green spaces and desert trails. It didn't say anything about golf courses or paying off city debt.

Voters overwhelmingly supported the initiative, with nearly 83 percent signing off at the ballot box. The tax amounts to one cent for every $10 purchase.

But Phoenix leaders soon found an unexpected use for the money: debt-ridden city golf courses.

In 2013, the City Council voted to borrow more than $15 million from parks initiative funds to pay off debt from its struggling golf courses. The city's golf courses had lost money for more than a decade as the popularity of the sport declined.

Golf courses were a city enterprise fund, meaning they were supposed to operate as a self-sustaining business separate from the rest of the city's general-fund budget.

Because the courses kept racking up debt — Phoenix loaned money to itself to keep the enterprise fund afloat — council members later decided to close the separate golf fund and made golf part of the city's operating budget.

But the city still needed to get rid of about $15 million in debt the golf fund owed to the city. That's when the council voted to take it from parks initiative funds.

Council members vowed to repay the money, though none has been repaid to date.

Activists are pushing city leaders to make good on their commitment. They contend Phoenix's use of parks funds to erase red ink from golf courses betrayed the will of the voters, and the group has considered filing a lawsuit to force the repayment.

Greta Rogers, a resident and part of the group challenging the city's decision, has publicly blasted the move at numerous council meetings.

"They committed fraud," Rogers told The Arizona Republic. "It should never have gone to pay debt. Period."

She said if the city had told voters that parks initiative money would be used to pay off debt from failing golf courses, the measure never would have passed.

"Voters aren’t going to pay for government to screw up," Rogers said.

The city's current plan to repay the money seems improbable: Profits from golf course operations are expected to eventually fund it. But that won't happen anytime soon because the city says its courses must first break even and pay for $8 million in needed improvements, such as irrigation systems.

Phoenix's golf courses haven't made a profit for about two decades, and Rogers predicts the money will never get repaid under the current plan.

If the money materializes, the city could potentially use it help pay things like more rangers to patrol city parks, new playground equipment and trail maintenance and upgrades.

What do city officials say?

Phoenix-owned golfcourses
Here's a breakdown of how each course fared during the last fiscal year:

Aguila (18 holes)
8440 S. 35th Ave.
Rounds played: 61,454
Loss: $38,415
Cave Creek (18 holes)
15202 N. 19th Ave.
Rounds played: 56,804
Loss: $39,151
Encanto (18 and 9 holes)
2775 N. 15th Ave.
Rounds played: 47,323; 28,727
Profit: $38,866
Palo Verde (9 holes)
6215 N. 15th Ave.
Rounds played: 28,998
Loss: $211,848

Note: Two of the city's six golf courses, Papago and GCU, are operated and managed by ASU and GCU, respectively. The city did not have round numbers or financial returns for the performance of those courses. The schools bear any losses with those courses.
Parks and Recreation Director Inger Erickson said the use of initiative money to pay off the city's golf debt was necessary because the city's Finance Department feared outstanding golf debt could hurt the city's bond rating.

Erickson said the city has worked hard to stem its losses with golf courses by cutting costs and signing agreements for Arizona State University and Grand Canyon University to operate two of the city's six courses, which the schools use for their golf teams and various events.

ASU operates the Papago course in east Phoenix. GCU operates the former Maryvale course, now known as GCU Golf Course, and the university built a new clubhouse.

Erickson said the city still intends to repay parks initiative money it borrowed, but there is no timeline for when that could happen. Her department is working on a plan to possibly sell unneeded parks properties to come up with the money.

“I think everybody’s intention is to pay it back," she said. "How you get there is the question. I can’t create money. I can’t cut other programs to get to that."

The department is working to sell two properties right now: a vacant lot adjacent to the Rose Mofford Sports Complex near the Metrocenter Mall; and a vacant lot next to Kuban Park. Erickson said she will likely recommend the council use proceeds from the sale of those properties to begin repaying the debt.

It was unclear how soon the properties could be sold. Erickson said the city intends to sell them through a public-bid process.

Residents pushing the city to repay parks money say they welcome the proposal and hope the city will approve a specific plan outlining which unneeded parks properties will be sold.

How are city courses performing?

Erickson said the department plans for its golf courses to break even this year after many years in the red. In the last fiscal year, which ended June 30, 2016, the courses lost about $133,000.

Those losses were covered with money from the city's general fund. Erickson said the city has not budgeted any money to cover losses with the golf courses this year because it plans to break even.

But the popularity and fiscal performance of the city's courses varies. Just one golf course operated by the city, Encanto, made a profit last year.

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